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there is no political organization to assad. so as bad as this is right now, we could make it a whole lot worse by dumping a lot of weapons in and then having a collapse and then having al-qaeda there taking over another base that we'll have to fight. so as painful as it is, there's a right way to do this if we want to help those who seek freedom and that is work the political opposition first before you start shoveling your weapons in. >> general clark and ambassador, you both made great points. and we have to move on our to fourth story "outfront," mitt romney speaking at length about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that killed ambassador stevens and three others and what he would do about the situation there. >> in libya, i'll support the libyan people's efforts to forge a lasting government that represents all of them. and i'll vigorously pursue the terrorists who attacked our consulate in benghazi and killed our fellow americans. >> eli lake has been out on the libya story from the beginning with what th
there is no political organization to assad. so as bad as this is right now, we could make it a whole lot worse by dumping a lot of weapons in and then having a collapse and then having al-qaeda there taking over another base that we'll have to fight. so as painful as it is, there's a right way to do this if we want to help those who seek freedom and that is work the political opposition first before you start shoveling your weapons in. >> general clark and ambassador, you both made great...
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jon: especially when the iranian support bashar al-assad's forces. it seems to do battle by proximate see with iran in that way we'd want to be helpful. >> when you look at syria you don't look at it in isolation. you look at iran and the arc of coalition they are trying to form, from lebanon in the west, to syria, to iraq to iran itself, so bashar al-assad going is certainly in u.s. interests, because it is iran's number one ally. and iran is all in. they have 2,000 forces in there, this is the iranian republican guards who are assisting the syrian military in forming an elite force by themselves snooze you've given us a lot of new information, general, thank you very much. general jack keane. jenna: a new scare aboard an american airlines flight. passengers told to brace for a crash landing. the details of a severe malfunction thousands and thousands of feet in the air. he's a known terrorist who killed an american soldier in afghanistan. he was once in gitmo and now he is back in his own country. there are fresh concerns he will soon be free. we'l
jon: especially when the iranian support bashar al-assad's forces. it seems to do battle by proximate see with iran in that way we'd want to be helpful. >> when you look at syria you don't look at it in isolation. you look at iran and the arc of coalition they are trying to form, from lebanon in the west, to syria, to iraq to iran itself, so bashar al-assad going is certainly in u.s. interests, because it is iran's number one ally. and iran is all in. they have 2,000 forces in there, this...
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and i gave a, you can defeat assad tank and helicopters by supplying arms to this group of rebels. that's not realistic. if you're going to talk about leadership and america's leadership in the world, you have to admit that syria's defenses are far superior to any of the countries that we've seen toppled so easily, such as libya, for instance. so you can't just assert leadership by saying, i'm going to be your leader. you have to say what you're going to do and how it's going to be different from the leader that you are criticizing. that's what we didn't see from syria or today in what he said about iran either because he talks tough on iran, not clear how anything, anything he's proposed would be anything different. >> and he does this, brian, facing a president who has a strong record on foreign policy. let me show you what the president has been saying. >> four years ago i told you i would end the war in iraq and we did. i said i'd end the war in afghanistan. we are. i said we'd focus on the people who actually attacked us on 9/11 and today osama bin laden is no more. >> in two
and i gave a, you can defeat assad tank and helicopters by supplying arms to this group of rebels. that's not realistic. if you're going to talk about leadership and america's leadership in the world, you have to admit that syria's defenses are far superior to any of the countries that we've seen toppled so easily, such as libya, for instance. so you can't just assert leadership by saying, i'm going to be your leader. you have to say what you're going to do and how it's going to be different...
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to work with other nations to arm rebels in syria with reupons that can defeat bashir al assad's army. at a rally in florida, romney promised to be a strong international leader if elected. >> when i'm president oil take the care it takes to rebuild our principles and restore the principles that made america strong. >> reporter: the republican nominee couldn't resist taking another shot at the president's debate performance. >> now of course days later we're hearing his excuses and next january we'll watch him leave the white house for the last time. >> reporter: there's two more debates schedule. later this week is the vice presidential debate. now the obama camp is dismissing the romney speech saying it's a third or fourth time to explain his intentions. >> there are two presidential debates left in campaign 2012. but on thursday the vice presidential candidates go head-to-head. usually there's little attention paid to the debate between vp candidates but as bill plante reports this year is different. roll it's biden versus ryan. age versus youth. a great society liberal. >> we're g
to work with other nations to arm rebels in syria with reupons that can defeat bashir al assad's army. at a rally in florida, romney promised to be a strong international leader if elected. >> when i'm president oil take the care it takes to rebuild our principles and restore the principles that made america strong. >> reporter: the republican nominee couldn't resist taking another shot at the president's debate performance. >> now of course days later we're hearing his...
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tension in the middle east and a message to president assad to as turkey authorizes military action inside syria. >> this is not a mandate to wage war. it is so we can't prepare new development and protect our interests there. we are not declaring war on syria. >> mitt romney relaunched -- why the republicans are claiming victory at last night's u.s. presidential debate. >> coat ♪ >> love them, we do. 50 years ago today, the beatles released their first ever single. we look at how it holds up. decker packwood cause >> welcome to our viewers on pbs in america to the problem. the turkish prime minister said today he had no intention of starting a war with syria. but the message is mixed and the tensions are high. the turkish parliament authorize military action against neighbor after syrian shells landed in the turkish town killing five civilians. >> lot this was not turkey's war, but the deaths of one family next to the syrian border have changed kuwait this country sees its neighbors conflicts. the government has called the strike from syria a final straw. left of the isn't family hoped.
tension in the middle east and a message to president assad to as turkey authorizes military action inside syria. >> this is not a mandate to wage war. it is so we can't prepare new development and protect our interests there. we are not declaring war on syria. >> mitt romney relaunched -- why the republicans are claiming victory at last night's u.s. presidential debate. >> coat ♪ >> love them, we do. 50 years ago today, the beatles released their first ever single. we...
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obama said, we want assad out of power. he has substantive things to talk about on the debate stage when they debate foreign policy in two weeks and that ad is now irrelevant. >> don't you think this is a case of him saying, i'll do the things the president is trying to do but do them more effectively? >> there's a fair case to make and there's an opening for that. >> i agree. i'm not saying that's a bad thing. >> there's an opening the size of a pin drop. he didn't lay out his strategy for peace in israel. on iran, the best he could come up with was, i'm going to get tougher on iran because i'm going to have tougher sanctions. >> when barack obama came to office, he said, i'm not george w. bush, so therefore, i can negotiate with iran. >> he said he would open up all doors but he wasn't going to give you a seat at the table unless you wanted to come and talk peace. >> we have unsolicited advice on the other side of the break including helpful hints for donald trump. stay with us. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] its lightweight
obama said, we want assad out of power. he has substantive things to talk about on the debate stage when they debate foreign policy in two weeks and that ad is now irrelevant. >> don't you think this is a case of him saying, i'll do the things the president is trying to do but do them more effectively? >> there's a fair case to make and there's an opening for that. >> i agree. i'm not saying that's a bad thing. >> there's an opening the size of a pin drop. he didn't lay...
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sresident assad's regime is fighting for the survival, and it's unlikely that he wants to antagonize a powerful neighbor like turkey. but the bloody chaos that's cost housanf thousands of lives inside syria, now threatens to entangle other countries, even if they don't really want to fight. holly williams, cbs news, istanbul, turkey. gh axelrod: now to afghanistan where two u.s. soldiers were .illed today by insurgents. it happened in the eastern section of the country that's seen heavy fighting in recent months. tomorrow marks the 11th anniversary of the start of the fghan war. coming up, a vatican insider nvicteted. stay with us. >> axelrod: at the vatican the verdict is in-- the pope's butler did it, found guilty of stealing papers from his boss and leaking them to the press. alan pizzey has been following intrigueigue. o reporter: paolo gabriele's record of seven years of alithful service as the papal ogyler and his apology to vinedict xvi earned him a reduced sentence. he said he acted out of what he called a visceral love for the church and the pope and told the court, "i do no
sresident assad's regime is fighting for the survival, and it's unlikely that he wants to antagonize a powerful neighbor like turkey. but the bloody chaos that's cost housanf thousands of lives inside syria, now threatens to entangle other countries, even if they don't really want to fight. holly williams, cbs news, istanbul, turkey. gh axelrod: now to afghanistan where two u.s. soldiers were .illed today by insurgents. it happened in the eastern section of the country that's seen heavy...
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in the video which was posted by supporters of the assad regime the man is blindfolded and appears to be in distress. he's being shoved along by militants with machine guns and shoulder fired missiles. and his family and two news organizations that he works for say the man is tice but the state department says it cannot verify that it's him. >>> and new details this morning about that deadly shooting spree at a minneapolis sign company. that was last week. police now say that the gunman, an employee at the firm, was summoned to see his bosses, but before he stopped by the executive office, he went to his car and picked up two guns. police say as soon as he was told he was fired, engeldinger killed five coworkers before committing suicide. and there was a struggle for one weapon inside that office. >>> allergy-free milk for kids may be a step closer. scientists in new zealand believe they made a breakthrough using a genetically modified cow. they bred the cow to produce a hypoallergenic milk with reduced amounts of a protein believed to be the leading cause of milk allergies in childre
in the video which was posted by supporters of the assad regime the man is blindfolded and appears to be in distress. he's being shoved along by militants with machine guns and shoulder fired missiles. and his family and two news organizations that he works for say the man is tice but the state department says it cannot verify that it's him. >>> and new details this morning about that deadly shooting spree at a minneapolis sign company. that was last week. police now say that the...
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and asked how could bashar al assad do this. i went to apologize to the syrian people because i worked for this butcher this killer regime. >> reporter: a tearful apology, but his sincerity is questionable, when coming from a man who admits to spending years lying for the syrian regime. ivan watson, cnn, istanbul. >> ivan watson, thank you. >>> u.s. consulate attacked, ambassador killed and now some lawmakers were demanding ansers from the obama administration over what exactly happened and that includes congressman jason chaffetz who just returned from libya. he'll join me live and tell me what he discovered next. it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management >>> it has been almost a month now since four americans were killed in libya, u.s. ambassador chris stevens, foreign service o
and asked how could bashar al assad do this. i went to apologize to the syrian people because i worked for this butcher this killer regime. >> reporter: a tearful apology, but his sincerity is questionable, when coming from a man who admits to spending years lying for the syrian regime. ivan watson, cnn, istanbul. >> ivan watson, thank you. >>> u.s. consulate attacked, ambassador killed and now some lawmakers were demanding ansers from the obama administration over what...
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syria are in fact being fired by weapons that turkey provided to the rebels to help them fight the assad regime so you have those rather i want to situation where turkey is being fired on by weaponry that itself supplied to the rebels in addition to those we're also now receiving several reports that the syrian army of the kurdistan workers party is forming an army just fifteen kilometers from the turkish border and now the fighting which is concentrated in northern syria has seen kurds take advantage of the situation never really came to several cities their economy they wanted independence from damascus but they have also now becoming a problem for turkey turkey of course is no stranger to the kurdish problem just overnight turkish jets were firing at kurdish china in northern iraq so here too you have a situation where turkey in its assistance to the rebels to find assad is now having to fight we could see and seen an escalation in that problem as well. and a change of course in the middle east and later we'll look at mitt romney's criticism of who was foreign policy and why the repub
syria are in fact being fired by weapons that turkey provided to the rebels to help them fight the assad regime so you have those rather i want to situation where turkey is being fired on by weaponry that itself supplied to the rebels in addition to those we're also now receiving several reports that the syrian army of the kurdistan workers party is forming an army just fifteen kilometers from the turkish border and now the fighting which is concentrated in northern syria has seen kurds take...
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and get involved on the side of the anti-assad forces. >> yes. everything that we said would happen, if we got involved, is happening because we're not involved. al-qaeda is pouring in to the place. the massacres have increased. iranians and russians have increased their supplies and support of al assad and the tensions in the region are going up. look at syria, turkey, jordan, syria -- >> bill: sure. it's cauldron over there. >> absolutely. >> bill: i wanted to get your opinion on what you would have done had you been president. finally, were you surprised that president obama was so flat in the debate? he wasn't the guy that debated you four years ago. >> well, i think that there is a fundamental change here, bill, and that was in 2008, he didn't have a record to defend. and he's been living in a four-year bubble surrounded by an adoring media. this is the first time that he has really had to respond and he couldn't because he's having to defend a record which is indefensible. and i guess the second thing is that what is probably most impactful
and get involved on the side of the anti-assad forces. >> yes. everything that we said would happen, if we got involved, is happening because we're not involved. al-qaeda is pouring in to the place. the massacres have increased. iranians and russians have increased their supplies and support of al assad and the tensions in the region are going up. look at syria, turkey, jordan, syria -- >> bill: sure. it's cauldron over there. >> absolutely. >> bill: i wanted to get your...
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the assad regime violated every point of the plan. the assad accepted to withdraw heavy military equipment from cities. that acceptens was more in the media than on the ground. the assad regime agreed to stopped shooting at unarmed citizens and that sounded well on cnn but on the ground there were snipe thears took out citizens. it never mentioned that assad would later consider stepping down. the problem to reaching the six point of political dialogue is all the previous five points have been violated and therefore the assad regime will tell you it will accept a cease fire. immediately i can tell you with confidence that the assad regime is lying through itself teeth. >> i think also it is a credible threat. we need a credible threat for him to commit to any plan. that's what i think is really wanted. we can not just suggest for him and hope he will follow that. we need to be credible. >> you said it is the west who insist that assad step down. i would like to tell you no, it is the syrian people who want assad to step down. the west
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rainy and cargo plane that was bound for syria carrying military supplies for the troops loyal to the assad government so that tension in same setting up this meeting and setting up these deals that have been signed here in moscow all right peter all of our thank you. israel's prime minister has ordered a parliamentary election to take place early next year eight months ahead of schedule benjamin netanyahu is believed to be a banking on me swift poll to secure his reelection and a majority for his party right now he's struggling to get his austerity budget passed while brown bring up the war talk against iran election success could embolden netanyahu who's long been threatening an offensive against half crown but it's thought that striking before the vote could mean electoral defeat america's presidential election is also considered a major factor in the prime minister's decision as israeli historian and journalist dr ron paul explains. is taking advantage of situation the budget is. that to pass a budget is difficult but you could have done it but this is the best time for response to view
rainy and cargo plane that was bound for syria carrying military supplies for the troops loyal to the assad government so that tension in same setting up this meeting and setting up these deals that have been signed here in moscow all right peter all of our thank you. israel's prime minister has ordered a parliamentary election to take place early next year eight months ahead of schedule benjamin netanyahu is believed to be a banking on me swift poll to secure his reelection and a majority for...
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about whose hands the weapons would end up in because the objective that he stated it was to defeat assad seeing it as a stepping stone to iran iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them we should be working no less vigorously to our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines so basically mitt romney suggested taking advantage of the crisis in syria to fulfill the goal of defeating iran and blatant but straightforward remark basically expressing the same opportunistic approach to foreign policy with the u.s. has had for many years while obama campaign called romney reckless and amateurish when it comes to foreign policy so far the administration has stopped short of directly arming the rebels although washington is coordinating the efforts of their allies in the region that is saudi arabia qatar turkey which are providing weapons to the rebels one way or another but those allies are saying that they only provide smaller weapons that they would love to s
about whose hands the weapons would end up in because the objective that he stated it was to defeat assad seeing it as a stepping stone to iran iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them we should be working no less vigorously to our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines so basically mitt romney suggested taking advantage of the crisis in syria to...
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what's assad's response going to be to that? i don't see him pulling back. >> whose call would that have been to retaliate? >> that would come from the prime minister. the prime minister's got a lot of political baggage tied up in syria right now. a lot of people in turkey don't like the way he's really come out against assad, that he's got so many refugees in his country. and he wants to win another election. and he's got to come out tough on this one. >> talking to ivan watsson, he said the last thing turkey wants is to get dragged into a war. >> and look it's happening. this is what we're seeing right now. how far will it go depends on the amount of shelling. >> and five people were killed in turkey, correct? >> that's what we understand. a woman and several children. >> okay. so as we continue to watch, we'll watch reaction from nato also i presume. >> tur ks are turning to nato to. i don't think we can expect to see them sending tanks from europe or from the united states
what's assad's response going to be to that? i don't see him pulling back. >> whose call would that have been to retaliate? >> that would come from the prime minister. the prime minister's got a lot of political baggage tied up in syria right now. a lot of people in turkey don't like the way he's really come out against assad, that he's got so many refugees in his country. and he wants to win another election. and he's got to come out tough on this one. >> talking to ivan...
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members of the opposition who share our values and assure they attain the arms they need to defeat assad's tanks, helicopters and fighter jets. >> hey, peter, you were with him all weekend and we did see a decision by the romney campaign to include in the governor's stump more personal stories. of just ways that he worked with members of for instance of his community in boston. >> yeah, i think that's right. three times in all of the events held in florida. obviously as our viewers have seen, he has largely resisted this as a democrat would say. here though, it seems like there's a genuine sense of confidence, a reinvigorated campaign. you experience that when you talk to the crowds as well. it appears to be contagious to the candidate himself. in the past, we saw crowds that were largely anti obama more than pro romney. after the debate performance, they appear to be behind mitt romney and that seems to be fuelling him giving him more confidence to tell his own story. >> mr. alexander, we'll see you on the trail. thank you, sir. >>> well, mitt romney is hoping to amplify his criticisms of
members of the opposition who share our values and assure they attain the arms they need to defeat assad's tanks, helicopters and fighter jets. >> hey, peter, you were with him all weekend and we did see a decision by the romney campaign to include in the governor's stump more personal stories. of just ways that he worked with members of for instance of his community in boston. >> yeah, i think that's right. three times in all of the events held in florida. obviously as our viewers...
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there is a belief that a lot of the assad military are using weapons they've got from iran. is that true? and how long will you continue to support assad given the appalling conditions, the humanitarian catastrophe that we are all watching? at what point do you, the president of iran, say enough of this violence? >> translator: i do believe that we must all say enough of this violence right now. six months ago, i said enough of this violence. our opinion, vis-a-vis the issue of syria and other nations, is completely clear. we do believe that freedom, the right to choose, the right to vote, respect and justice is the fundamental right of all people. all people must obtain these rights. no one has the right to restrict a people and nation, but we believe as a friend of nations, we must help the nations around the world to obtain these rights through peaceful paths, through peaceful actions, and we have worked hard. i am now hard at work to organize a contact group in order to bring the two sides into a point of national agreement. >> mr. president, do you condemn the level of
there is a belief that a lot of the assad military are using weapons they've got from iran. is that true? and how long will you continue to support assad given the appalling conditions, the humanitarian catastrophe that we are all watching? at what point do you, the president of iran, say enough of this violence? >> translator: i do believe that we must all say enough of this violence right now. six months ago, i said enough of this violence. our opinion, vis-a-vis the issue of syria and...
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cannot seem to get the international system thingy to sort of you know do a last question against the assad regime and they cannot get a u.n. security council resolution to authorize these things and this may be you know setting the groundwork a pretext for a backdoor into military intervention because of course turkey then caught it can call on its nato allies to to assist and it's essentially the nato allies who would anyways do you know a military confrontation with with the assad regime if there was a u.n. security council resolution so you know and there are questions about this is this the false why you know operation to to sort of set the ground for military intervention there's been many false narratives over syria i think this is just another one. the un's most powerful body has called for restraint from both and qur'an damascus as a strongly decried syria's deadly attack on turkish citizens are. the latest from the un security council in new york. the u.n. security council agreed and issued a presidential statement strongly condemning wednesday's mortar attack by syria on a turkis
cannot seem to get the international system thingy to sort of you know do a last question against the assad regime and they cannot get a u.n. security council resolution to authorize these things and this may be you know setting the groundwork a pretext for a backdoor into military intervention because of course turkey then caught it can call on its nato allies to to assist and it's essentially the nato allies who would anyways do you know a military confrontation with with the assad regime if...
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the assad regime is doing everything it can to try to crush this rebellion. the last thing they need is a war on their borders. but when you have mortar shells falling 150 meets or 150 yards into someone's territory, it can -- this was a few days ago, you haven't had deaths in recent days, but you can easily see a situation where this would spiral out of control. so, you know, arming the rebels coming from mitt romney, i don't know. is this something that is going to happen rebels in a substantial way inside the country? this is still talk. you're still talking about vetting groups. we're months away from identifying groups that will be armed in a sort of -- in a way that can help them fight against the regime that is extremely militaryized. >> what about syria? you have sources in syria and one line that stood out to me, mitt romney quoting a syrian woman saying we'll never forget that you forget us, but that the u.s. is forgetting syria. what do syrians tell you? >> what syrians say, those who are on the side of the anti-regime movement, and those who suppo
the assad regime is doing everything it can to try to crush this rebellion. the last thing they need is a war on their borders. but when you have mortar shells falling 150 meets or 150 yards into someone's territory, it can -- this was a few days ago, you haven't had deaths in recent days, but you can easily see a situation where this would spiral out of control. so, you know, arming the rebels coming from mitt romney, i don't know. is this something that is going to happen rebels in a...
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bashar al-assad will go but he won't go any time soon. so we need to come up with a new set of policies that protects u.s. against what's happening in iraq. that's what we need to watch. >> thankar y bou yh. online. >> woodruff: online, we assess what it would take for syria to transition from the assad regime to a new government. >> brown: next, two takes on last night's presidential match-up. we start with ray suarez, who traveled to a southern battleground state to gauge reaction there. >> reporter: we watched the with a cross-section of florida voters, some intending to vote for the president, some for governor romney, and some still making up their minds. nancy riordan, who's 49 currently looking for work in the tough florida economy. suzanne kidd, a 65-year-old retiree who taught for 30 years in the detroit schools. chastity pellum, a student at the university of central florida training to be a science michael weinbaum is 28, an engineer and self-described social conservative from jacksonville. and charlie adkins, a 56-year- old re
bashar al-assad will go but he won't go any time soon. so we need to come up with a new set of policies that protects u.s. against what's happening in iraq. that's what we need to watch. >> thankar y bou yh. online. >> woodruff: online, we assess what it would take for syria to transition from the assad regime to a new government. >> brown: next, two takes on last night's presidential match-up. we start with ray suarez, who traveled to a southern battleground state to gauge...